"I'm not talking about medical stuff anymore," the rehabbing Williams said. "It's just a waste of everybody's time in general. We're playing the Colts in two weeks; we've got the Browns this week, and that's what we're focused on as a team."

Williams is convinced he'll play this year and for many years to come despite a herniated disc that sidelined him the second day of training camp and required surgery on Aug. 6. He said the pain is in the past but the mental frustration continues.

"It's been a big test," he said. "I'm not used to sitting out. But it's something you learn from, and I've gotten better from it, and I'll be a better player in the end. You learn the tempo, what to expect on game day, how stuff changes on game day. Because as much film as you want to watch during the week, teams are going to throw extra stuff at you. So it's been good (in that regard)."

--QB Kyle Orton is usually considered an adept manager of games and a proficient high-percentage passer, but he showed more ability to stretch the field last week, completing passes of 55 yards to WR Mark Bradley, 23 and 21 yards to WR Rashied Davis and 18 yards to TE Greg Olsen.

"He manages the game very well, and that's not a negative, there's nothing wrong with that," offensive coordinator Ron Turner said. "But he's not just a game manager. His rookie year when he came in, obviously the package we had for him was limited, and with our defense and special teams we asked him basically to do that for the most part. But he is so much better of a quarterback than that. It's a positive that he does manage the game and has great presence and football intelligence all that and, but he can do much more than that."

--WR Marty Booker has more than twice as many career catches (509) than all the rest of the Bears' wide receivers combined, but the 10-year veteran has just 1 catch for 15 yards in the preseason and hasn't even been on the field for many snaps.

"I would like to be out there a lot more," Booker said. "But sometimes you have to get the other guys some work and get them going. If I have to take a backseat and get some spot work here and there, I guess my time has to be in the classroom and studying and learning."

--It sounded a bit odd when 25-year-old DT Tommie Harris referred to himself as old after the third preseason game, but he explained. "I am old," he said. "I play in the trenches, dude. That's (like) dog years."

--The Bears were averaging 4.7 yards per rush through three preseason games compared to last preseason's 2.7. But they had been outgained on the ground 484-335, although they had just 71 running plays to their opponents' 105.

BY THE NUMBERS: 20. Number of quarterbacks who have started games for the Bears since 1992 when Brett Favre became the Packers' starter.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "I don't know. I don't pay attention to fantasy football in the first place." -- QB Kyle Orton, when asked if he expected to be a popular pick in Fantasy League Football.